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the cliff. it is really about senator harry reid and mitch mcconnell? >> to develop the political staring contest democrats say republicans need to move and around rego. the president arrived this morning from hawaii and so with the top democrats and republicans but still no update to report. senate majority leader harry reid said it looks like we're going over a cliff and it is up to the house. >> speaker boner shed call people back to washington today and should not have let them go. they are not here. john boner cared more about his speakership than the financial footing. >> they're now working on a fiscal clear solutions they say the majority leader should talk less and legislate more. also mitch mcconnell says the leader is happy to review with the president what he has in mind but that a majority has not put forward a plan. when they do members will review legislation to make decisions on how fast -- best to proceed. >> it takes time for the house and senate to get something done. if there is a solution agreed to buy political leaders it could take beyond the new year before it gets
right to the senate floor where senator mitch mcconnell is actually speaking about the fiscal cliff. let's take a listen. >> we'll see what the president has to propose. members on both sides of the aisle will review it, and then we'll decide how best to proceed. hopefully, there's still time for an agreement of some kind that saves the taxpayers from a wholly, wholly preventable economic crisis. mr. president, i yield the floor. >> the majority leader. >> i'm not sure my distinguished republican counterpart has followed what has taken place in the house of representatives. the house, as reported lie the press and we all know, one of the plans that didn't have a name, it wasn't plan "b," i don't know what plan it was because they've had a number over there, but this plan was to show the american people that the $250,000 ceiling on raising taxes wouldn't pass in the house. why didn't they have that vote? because it would have passed. they wanted to kill it. the speaker wanted to show everybody that it wouldn't pass the house. but he couldn't bring it up for vote because it would have pass
. >> thank you so much. we just got word that the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell will be going before cameras shortly so that could be market-moving as well. we'll wait to see what that is. >> when he speaks, we'll bring him to you. flows into stocks-based mutual and exchange traded funds have posted 8 billion and bonds, on the other hand, have taken less than 1 billion. a bit of a rotation going on here. should investors be putting money to work in equities despite today's selloff? >> the battle of stocks versus bond. with us cnbc's jeff cox and kathy jones from charles schwab. waiting to see what the ten-year note is doing. it's come back sharply now with the buying of stocks here. i mean, there is this either/or going on right now, safety vers versus risks, right? >> doing this all year long, news about the economy or settlement of the fiscal cliff issue, the bond market sells off a little bit and the market rallies. here we are again. hope springs eternal. >> let's say we get a deal in the near term, some sort of a framework deal. does that mean we'll see rates on the treas
reid is trying to jam mitch mcconnell into allowing this vote to go forward without the 60-vote threshold, something that's necessary for virtually every vote here in the senate and mitch mcconnell says it's time for president obama to lead. the threshold question is, can something pass the house of representatives? can john boehner put something on the floor that needs the majority of democrat support that will not get republican support and none to speak of that would allow taxes to go up for people making more than $250,000 or 400,000 as was in the president's last offer and the answer to that question remains very, very unlikely. so we are where we are. this ain't schoolhouse rock, that's for sure. it's not like the house passes a bill, the senate passes a bill. this is a stand yau and the looks like the ultimate version of white house gridlock. >> right. and you mentioned the threshold. we have senator murkily on later today to talk about how crucial the filibuster is. i want to go right to steve kornaki here. we talk about the weather sometimes because it's more fun than p
. it is up to the senate to do something. you have senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, the republican saying it is up to the democrats to do something. we'll not do anything until president obama and the democrats come up with a plan and president obama actually late yesterday did call all four leaders, majority, minority leaders in the house and senate that includes mitch mcconnell and said the first time a democrat called him since thanksgiving to talk about this. so they're talking but there is no indication anybody is actually doing anything right now. gregg: what about harry reid? what's his, does he have anything at all maybe towards the end of the week he will put on the table? i've been hearing he will put to a vote an extension of the bush tax cuts for anybody making under $250,000 a year, extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million people that are about to lose them. what are you hearing? >> right. he sounded pretty pessimistic this morning but that could change and there's, kind of a fight, procedurally between the house and the senate in a sense that if reid originates
on his side. that's why speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are cracking up with the clock ticking. joining me now is form er pennsylvania governor ed rendell. jerry bernstein, senior fellow at the center and jonathan, opinion writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc kriblt tor. contributor. thank you all for coming on the show. governor rendell, let me start with you. have you ever, ever seen anything like this? i mean, where is the leadership? >> yeah, this is amazing. if i were the president, i'd be tremendously frustrated. you have to have somebody to negotiate with. there's nobody across the table for the president to strike a deal with. and the president has been forthcoming. he's been expansive. he's already moved. he's moved from 250 to 400. he's made significant steps. he's laid out some of the entitlement forms that he's willing to accept. he's moved about as far as he can move because there's nobody coming back to limb saying we'll do this and we'll do that. it's really irresponsible. >> it's very irresponsible. jonathan, you look at the fact that they're not being
. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hurdles. if they have the votes around here, they can legislate the sky is green and the grass is blue. that's not an issue. what harry reid is really saying is mitch mcconnell, get on board, don't try to filibuster. of course they're talking about a bill that had raise capital on couples making more than $250,000 a year, and do a few other nuts and bolts that are deemed the bare minimum that the president wants to see done before we hit january 1st. i've got to tell you, though, getting back to the votes, the votes simply aren't there in the house of representatives for that. they're likely not even there in the senate, so we're back at square one, amazing as it is to say at this point, thomas. >> when we talk about what we know about the presid
of senator mitch mcconnell? guest: the line that comes from the speakers office all the time is the line of communication remain open. i don't know how much talking they did as the president was in hawaii spending time with his family and the speaker was back home in ohio, i believe. i don't know that for sure. everyone was doing their family time and not really working that significantly on something. i think there was probably some minimal conversation, but not a lot. as for the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, i think that is a good one. a lot has been made in the past few days about him taking a higher profile role in these negotiations. while i don't like prognosticating into the future, we can look at the past in some of the previous negotiations of congress and the kind of role he has played. almost all of these talks, whether it was about government shutdown in the spring of 2011 or the debt limit debate in the summer of 2011 or the payroll tax-cut debate last year, those negotiations started at a level between the president and speaker but always broke down at that level
a bill unless mitch mcconnell allows it to come for a vote for a simple majority. they are seeking assurances that he won't try to block it. for his part he said it's up to the president to lead. unclear if anything is going to happen today. it's becoming more and more likely we will hit january 1st without a resolution. >> peter, obviously the president gets back a little bit from now. what are we hearing about their strategy? we have that very effective bully pulpit? >> it's a good question. the president is supposed to arrive a couple hours from now. 72 degrees for honolulu. better hope he brings sunshine back with him. the real challenge is when he gets here, there is barely 100 hours before the headline hits. he said a short time ago describing their strategy and it remains not too dissimilar. it's not whether we can get a deal done or not. whether mcconnell will filibuster such a deal and will boehner allow a vote. the strategy he indicated moments ago. that doesn't look like good news with the frosty exchange of statements between house speaker boehner yesterday and majority
. this afternoon senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said he wasn't willing to offer the white house a blank check just because we're on the edge of the cliff. take a look. >> last night i told the president we'd be happy to look at whatever he proposes, but the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> well, actually it's not a blank check the president has been pushing. and this isn't a partisan statement. look at the numbers in terms of what the public thinks about what the president ran on which is to raise taxes for people who make over $250,000 a year. 47% of the country basically agrees with that, which is what he said. only 13% raise taxes for everybody. they are the real conservatives. and fiscally hawkish i would say. and 35% say no tax increase. so americans tend to agree with the president. when you go back to this campaign, there are very few other
republican leader mitch mcconnell adding his voice to a day that has seen a number of people talking, including that man, harry reid, the majority leader of the senate. we've been getting mixed signals. the biggest signal we got was regarding the house which is coming back to -- reconvening sunday night, and that brought the market back in a big way, but now we're hearing from mitch mcconnell and let's bring in eamon javers there on capitol hill, i mean, the rumor had been, a lot of traders talking here, eamon, that maybe there's a dell brewing between the president and the senate. that doesn't sound like anything is going on right now according to rich mcconnell. >> what we got was a facebook post from scott brown who said he was come back to washington and jumping on an airplane to review some new proposal from the president that they expected to get. the whole afternoon has been spent by reporters trying -- trying to figure out what was going on. now harry vaed responding to mcconnell so let's right to it. >> he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains i've not d
mitch mcconnell? guest: the line that comes from the speakers office all the time is the line of communication remain open. i don't know how much talking they did as the president was in hawaii spending time with his family and the speaker was back home in ohio, i believe. i don't know that for sure. everyone was doing their family time and not really working that significantly on something. i think there was probably some minimal conversation, but not a lot. as for the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, i think that is a good one. a lot has been made in the past few days about him taking a higher profile role in these negotiations. while i don't like prognosticating into the future, we can look at the past in some of the previous negotiations of congress and the kind of role he has played. almost all of these talks, whether it was about government shutdown in the spring of 2011 or the debt limit debate in the summer of 2011 or the payroll tax-cut debate last year, those negotiations started at a level between the president and speaker but always broke down at that level
and up to mitch mcconnell to allow an up or down vote for 50 and not 60 votes. meanwhile, mitch mcconnell says it's up to the president to act and to lead. i mean, basically, what we have is the president insisting on the package that he's insisted on all along. those making more than $250,000 to have the taxes raised, some january 1st. nonstarter. abundantly clear in the house of representatives. there's some question here and harry reid said he expects to go over the fiscal cliff. can there be a retroactive package passed to help stave off the dramatic series of tax hikes for all americans? >> the office of mcconnell releasing a statement acknowledging that conversation with the president last night. >> reporter: yeah. >> in that statement he wrote in part, quote, the leaders happy to review what the president has in mind but to date the senate democratic majority has not put forward a plan. how much pressure does that then put on speaker boener? >> reporter: speaker boehner said himself, you may have heard this, if -- every day would be christmas. there's ifs in there. hypotheticals, t
. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is saying this is the first contact he's had from a democrat since thanksgiving. you need unanimous continue sent for a lot of things to happen. >> and we're now hearing that the white house is denying there's a new plan from the president. so the white house and harry reid are both denying scott brown and gopas about this new physical cliff plan which puts us back to square one. you tackled this issue of john boehner's control over his conference. in a really interesting way. you basically said he's a substitute teacher in the sense that even when he disciplines folks like holtzcamp who were insubordinate and ripped them of committee assignments, the whole episode gave boehner the feel of a substitute teacher who is accountable for what happened in the classroom but isn't really in control of the kids. so these guys deny him and yet he doesn't have control of them at the end. >> it's a handful of guys, maybe as many as 20, 30, something like that who basically are completely uncontrollable for boehner. it is a large enough number that he can't put s
of legislation would look like and reports they got from republicans and the president told mitch mcconnell that he would get the details. that's where from the perspective of republicans where things stand. the president publicly said before he left for his vacation in hawaii since everything else was deadlocked, despite everybody's efforts, because of that what he wants to happen is for the very least for congress to pass a tax cut extension for 98% of americans. his plan which he campaigned on for five years. mitch mcconnell spoke to the president as did the other leaders before the president left hawaii. what mcconnell aide is still saying is that the impression he got is that the white house would or at least some democrat whether it's the white house or harry reid's office would provide the details of what that legislation would look like. they said with tongue firmly in cheek, we checked in a process conference and it can't get through the senate. we need to see if anything will get done and at the same time jessica is hearing from white house sources, i am hearing for democratic sou
are sick of. while it's perfectly conversation. mitch mcconnell said our number one goal is is to defeat president obama. there is a sense that a lot of republicans want to just block every single thing. >> laura: if he doesn't get nominated because of the republicans. it's probably going to be because of the democrats, the jewish lobby comment and maybe not voting for the iran libyan sanctions. probably have republican opposition as well. margie great to see you. >> great to sigh. happy holidays. >> laura: happy holidays. next on the run down the newtown massacre stopped shopping in its tracks. later in the wake of that slort in slaughter in connecticut. new york newspaper publishes the names and addresses of local gun permit owners. has their privacy been breached? those stories and more when the factor continues. >> announcer: stop! living with hair loss, that is. losing your hair is no fun and no one wants to be bald, but there is hope. >> getting my hair back was the best thing that ever happened to me. >> i'm happy with the way i look now. >> i'm very excited about my hair. >> i fe
to reconvene on sunday. both senate majority leader harry reid and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell spoke a short time ago and neither sounds hopeful of fiscal cliff deal will be made before the deadline. so at this point is there any chance the united states can avoid taking a fiscal cliff dive? joining me for more is republican senator john hoeven of north dakota. and very simply, sir, we appreciate you being here but is harry reid right? are we going off the cliff? >> well, adam i hope he is not right. at this point president obama indicated he is going to call and talk to our leader, mitch mcconnell, senator mcconnell and make a proposal. we're very interested to see what that proposal is. we put revenues on the table. there needs to be some savings. and i believe we can get a deal so let's go. adam: what will the do look like? the president at one point actually upped what he was willing to tax. he wants taxes. originally saying on incomes of 250,000 and up. then he went to 400,000. what kind of compromise do we need from both side to get a deal done so that i don't have to keep bori
, was senator mitch mcconnell and here we have the majority leader in the senate, harry reid. let's listen in for a second. >> the house has reported by the press and we all know, one of the plans didn't have a name, it wasn't plan b. i don't know which plan it was because they've had a number over there. but this plan was to show the american people that the $250,000 ceiling on raising taxes wouldn't pass in the house. why didn't they have that vote? because it would have passed. they wanted to kill it. the speaker wanted to show everybody that it wouldn't pass the house. but he couldn't bring it up for vote because it wouldn't pass. republicans -- a myriad of republicans think it's the fair thing to do and of course every democrat would vote for that. the republican leader finds himself frustrated that the president has called on him to help address the fiscal cliff. he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains that i have not passed the resolution to pass the fiscal cliff but he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that wo
then what we've been hearing from republicans, particularly mitch mcconnell's office is we can't talk about whether we can pass anything until we actually see the legislation. so our understanding from these sources who are familiar with the call and familiar with the process is that the president will put the plan in legislate lative language. what is the plan? the president's tax plan he campaigned on for five years which is to let the tax plan expire for households making less than $250,000. he would add unemployment insurance. the thinking here is he would potentially also add extending the estate tax cut. the estate tax has been at a relatively low level. it expires also at the ipd of the year. but, you know, this is all you know, to'ing and fro'ing right now to see if it's possible to pass anything to keep most americans' taxes where they are before the end of the year when everybody's tax go up. >> we heard from senator reid earlier today. they were dealing, in his words, with a dictatorship. are we expected to hear from him or any of the players from the hill in terms of trying to m
. mitch mcconnell said our number one goal is is to defeat president obama. there is a sense that a lot of republicans want to just block every single thing. >> laura: if he doesn't get nominated because of the republicans. it's probably going to be because of the democrats, the jewish lobby comment and maybe not voting for the iran libyan sanctions. probably have republican opposition as well. margie great to see you. >> great to sigh. happy holidays. >> laura: happy holidays. next on the run down the newtown massacre stopped shopping in its tracks. later in the wake of that slort in slaughter in connecticut. new york newspaper publishes the names and addresses of local gun permit owners. has their privacy been breached? those stories and more when the factor continues. >> laura: in the factor follow up seeing many tent, just hours after 20-year-old adam lanza shot and killed 27 people including 20 children in connecticut this month. the left began demanding new gun control measures. the city of chicago has seen unprecedented violence this year and the mainstream media has largely been
as senator reid and his opposite number, minority leader mitch mcconnell. but today, mcconnell gave no indication of movement. >> last night i told the president we'd be happy to look at whatever he proposes, but the truth is we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: adding to the urgency, treasury secretary timothy geithner warned he'll have to begin taking "extraordinary measures" to postpone a government default. the government is on track to hit its borrowing limit on monday, he said with no prospect of congressional action to raise the limit. here now to help us unravel what's going on is todd zwillich. he's washington correspondent for "the takeaway" on public radio international. todd, welcome back. decode this for us. are the players privately as bleak about the prospects as their public statement suggests? >> not as bleak, margaret, but bleak
briefly about this earlier, but mitch mcconnell has a senate election in 2014. and if there's been one thing that's been noted over the past year, it's these crazy senate challengers have the chance of knocking off a person in the primary. and i'm assuming that mitch mcconnell knows that. >> this is great. this is great. we love this. tension at the convention of both ends of pennsylvania avenue, the white house, congress. this is terrific stuff. kurt, stay with us, okay? can you. we're begging you, begging you. >> you're adding gravitas to this. >>> we'll also bring in nbc news political director, chuck todd, also nbc white house correspo corresponde correspondent. >>> first, dylan dreyer with the forecast. >> we are going to see a good amount of snow across northern new england today. another one to two feet of snow possible. because of that, we do have winter storm warnings once again in effect. and this storm is just continuing to wreak havoc on the airports. that's the problem with the holiday travelers all taking up the flights that were all canceled yesterday, still trying to ma
the problems with the weather around the country and got no response on that. spokesperson for mitch mcconnell asked the same question and he said it was possible that some senators might be delayed in getting back here. we should point out for example there are two republican senators in maine. shibani: good luck getting home. got some work to do. dennis: it is now up to the senate to come up with a fiscal cliff compromise because the house failed to work out a plan and we are joined by two house members, marcy captor and republican congressman tom mcclintock. thank you for being with us. let's start with you, during the presidential debate, president obama said flatly we are not going to go over the fiscal cliff. it is not going to happen. is that still the case do you think? >> that has been president obama's position and it is my position and the position of the democratic caucus in the house, the position of the democratic caucus in the senate. the problem has been in the house sadly, there's a serious step on the republican side of the aisle and we were unable to reach resolution comprom
, four days to go, you heard from senate minority leader, and mitch mcconnell says we're heading over the fiscal cliff. the panic is just setting in. this is your world. taxpayers are starting to freak out because a half trillion dollars plus tax hit is about to kick in as a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is no where are in sight and time is running out. we hit the streets to show people this. this graphic shows how big a tax hit you could expect depending on your income no matter where in the country you live. for folks who could soon be forced to pay higher taxes, reality setting in. >> january 1st, that's what your taxes would go up. >> wow. >> wow. >> wow is not wow. >> well, it's going to be somewhere between 8,000 to $12,000, which i don't have. so i'm not looking forward to that. >> we're living paycheck by paycheck. i have five kids and that's going to put us way down in the hole. >> i'm a single income, you've got to be kidding. >> that's a lot of money. >> we need to keep our money in our pockets to help our country first. >> that sucks. i have a lot more better things to do
. >> doug: late breaking news from mitch mcconnell's office. we hear all parties have been invited to a meeting at the white house tomorrow. however, we are hearing also from the senior democratic aides there is no such meeting and from boehner's people that they haven't been invited. welcome to washington. fiscal cliff negotiations as if to signify how america wants the parties to come together. starbucks barristas today are hand signing each of the coffee cup with the words "come together." anything will do at this point. bring in the panel. steve hayes for "weekly standard." a.b. stoddard, associate editor of the hill. sindcated columnist charles krauthammer. a.b., the res tent numbers-cruncher. what do you make of the back and forth today? >> today was about the drama on both sides and blame game and showing they were going to come and call e want to get down to business before december 31, which is monday. we're not, there are no plans. no paperwork. there are conflicting reports about the meeting. it's all kind of depressing. when you poke arp you find out that the house is r
, mitch mcconnell. when that happens we'll go live to the senate floor but a spokesman for john boehner says senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house passed legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff. senate democrats have not. if the president and lawmakers cannot reach a deal in the next five days, automatic tax hikes and major spending cuts are set to kick in and economists warn that could trigger another recession. what else are we hearing from democrats on the hill? >> trace, very interesting comments from vice president joe biden up here for an unrelated matter about the fiscal cliff today. he says, essentially he was asked what do you think will pass? he said if you tell me what would attract republican support, i can tell you what would pass. if asked if he was optimistic, he said he was neither optimistic or pessimistic but was going back to talk to the president. the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with house republican leadership. >> american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating out the house of representatives. it'
's sort of con joeling mitch mcconnell to agree to those actions on those parts. if the president can get that done, we don't have much time left for the rest of the pieces to fall into place. >> jessica, i'm sure you saw harry reid on the floor there today really going after speaker boehner, which is just more and more of the blame game. can anything get done when all they are doing is fighting and blaming each other? >> for the longest time, we thought this is a lot for the last few weeks of public posturing. behind the scenes, they must have a secret deal worked out, but in the end they will come out with a deal to get this done before new year's. but it hasn't turned out that way, has it? so it's not surprising there's an enormous amount of partisanship given each side wants to win the public relations war in @ event the nation does go over the cliff. >> let's hope for the best. jessica yellin. happy holidays. come to new york. thanks. >>> your top stories, heated political differences are common, but a dispute in albuquerque? that one nearly ended in gun violence. >> drop the gun! >>
with congressional leaders on hand will be the president, mitch mcconnell, the minority leader in the senate and of course harry reid, the majority leader. earlier reports of this story had it john boehner would be on hand, but john boehner is not even in washington, d.c., and a spokesperson told us they haven't been invited. so figure that out. who will follow as it continues to break but right now a meettng with congressional leaders on the fiscal cliff with the president on hand tomorrow, friday, and we will shirk over that. i put different topic. even if you aren't a frequent flyer, my next guest says you can enjoy the perks of being one. like being upgraded to first class and it is not as hard as you think. now, rick, have waited for this segment for the whole show because i wanted that elite status but i don't fly enough to really earn it. so tell me, how can i get that elite status without doing all the work were spending all the money? >> typically the one bad problem with elite status if you have to fly. you don't have to fly very much. we'll give you an example of how my wife achie
the moments until our taxes go up. >> senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is expected to take the senate floor a few minutes from now. he has been saying his office has been saying throughout the day when senate democrats offer a plan, republicans will review it. so republicans are very much waiting for democrats to offer a new type of fiscal cliff proposal. democrats are saying to republicans in the house, they should just pass that bill that passed the senate earlier this year, one that extends tax rates for families earning less than $250,000 a year. so very much bit of a stalemate going on here in washington as we move ever closer to the deadline. back to you. ashley: my first reaction is, so what's new? >> not much. ashley: at least it is something. but the 31st is well, the very next day. >> right. ashley: if you look past the headlines about the gridlock in washington what do the fundamentals of the economy really look like? are they not that bad? and will 2013 be the year for you to make money? certainly hope so. mark luschini, janney montgomery scott analyst joining me in an fb.
. ashley judd is one that a lot of democrats are hoping could run against senate minority leader for mitch mcconnell. she's a main power, a fund-raising machine and eighth-generation kentuckyian who could take on mcconnell in his own state. >> probably watching that state today. a business kentucky fan. >>> for all the 13 to watch, we're putting a link to the article on our website. log-on. that's there as well as a whole lot more. >>> thomas roberts is up next. thomas, good to see you, i see it's a gray suit day. >> i got the memo. >>> next hour getting your driving gear ready. the ping-pong game continuing. senate majority leader harry reid blasting house speak john boehner moments ago for being m.i.a. from the capitol. there's new word the president has called all forecongressional leaders, hose thousands phone calls went. me the reverend al sharpton is teaming up with the commissioner ray kelly to push for an assault weapons ban. this is the talk over arming teachers or at least armed guards in schools has picked up -- we're talking about one mayor e south pacific in 1943. i got mine i
on mitch mcconnell's office to see if vice president biden is swinging by today and one of the ways that the two sides may be having a form of a conversation today given the fact that we believe absent the calls, the president put out to the leaders, the house and the senate, that there's been no more conversations absent those between senior staff today. >> viqueira, a little birdie around the building said there's a pool that some people are in betting on when this thing will be wrapped up. and i heard you have january 10th. i would like to know your thoughts on why you picked january 10th. i would like to know what is the outlier date in this pool and if you have any intel on who else is in the pool. >> reporter: well, i mean, i'm sure i take no satisfaction in being right in this. there's a lot at stake here and certainly we look at gambling on legislation so there's money wagered. having said that, toure, i mean, you know, there's just too many ways to lose votes in this thing and not enough to gain votes in this thing and given the dynamic, the bedrock dynamic of the house of
. this is spokesperson from senator mitch mcconnell's office. last night the president called senator mcconnell, the first democrat to do so on the fiscal cliff since thanksgiving and other leaders to talk about the need for the senate to act. the leader is happy to review what the president has in mind but to date the senate democrat majority has not put forward a plan. when they do members on both sides of the aisle will review the legislation and make decisions on how to best proceed, end quote. this is a serious back and forth. let's get some perspective. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live for us in washington. a short time ago, another key lawmaker did not sound very optimistic, mike. >> reporter: harris, you would be right. that would be senate majority leader harry reid. seemed kind of irritated that house republicans and all house members are not here in washington trying to work out a deal on the fiscal cliff. here is more from leader reid a short time ago. >> if we go over the cliff and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of rep
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and mitch mcconnell have been radio silent on negotiations. joining me is will kain and roland martin, a political analyst and columnist. welcome to you both. >> good to see you. >> good to see you. i'm just so sad we have to talk about the fiscal cliff. let's start with you, roland. harry reid comes out and says the house isn't in session. the president is back. the house is going nowhere. john boehner is doing a terrible job and we'll likely go off the cliff because of the republicans. >> it's interesting. this morning i talked to congressman e moon yule cleaver and part of the issue deals with the house rules. they have to have 48-hours notice to come back to washington, d.c. republicans also have a rule -- >> like there are phones. >> but again, the problem is the house rule that they must wait 72 hours to act on legislation. they can always suspend that rule, frankly change it for this particular purpose. that's part of the problem. they waited so long. this is also one of the reasons why congress should have kept their butt in washington, d.c. to get this problem solved because
republicans on the fiscal talks. i just wish that john boehner and mitch mcconnell would have some more backbone and the tables and say we heard. read about blaming republicans, and boehner said it on the senate floor, but they need to come to the podium today or tomorrow and say senator reid, we recently passed two bills are sitting on the fiscal cliff cristeta sitting on your desk and you have the audacity to blame republicans. i think they're both to blame someone. reid a little more so. we see what happens. obama has led this country. he is about to lead us into another debt downgrade. it should be evident to see what happens when you let partisan democrats like harry reid and nancy pelosi call the shots. >> marty, you are calling on the democrat line. what is your reaction? caller: the president needs to get the republicans come back in from christmas holiday. >> what do you think is gonna happen? >> we are on the verge of a fiscal cliff and they are still on vacation. >> let's go to mike in texas, on our line for republicans. >> i agree with the first guy. i wish they would have a
leader mitch mcconnell to say what are you willing to accept? so here we are. there is blame game going on. there is lot of maneuvering still. bottom line we'll probably meet this weekend heading up to the fiscal cliff and we'll see what the final offer is to see if they can push it across the finish line. gregg: mike, we're getting word the president has nod no meaningful conversation with anybody own capitol hill, especially john boehner and yet we do hear, that, you know, the seeds have been talking. that staffers have actually been negotiating. what do you hear? >> reporter: that's right. we heard there have been ongoing discussions, taking place throughout the christmas holiday but at this point republicans are saying they took a beating, if you will, trying to lead in the house, a deal that did not go very far. so they're saying, okay, harry reid, senate democrats, see what you can do, see what you put forward and see if it is good enough to possibly pass both the senate and the house that is a tricky situation to navigate at this point because the senate and house are obviously q
mitch mcconnell or other senators in the republican party will allow that to move forward. if something passes in the senate, i think it's likely that the house will follow suit. i think that takes the pressure off john boehner a little bit in terms of bringing something to the floor that his minions don't love. >> take care, drew. >>> two firefighters shot and wounded on christmas eve are improving and starting physical therapy. joseph hoffstetter and the other firefighter were shot after being called to a fire. we are starting to hear the 911 calls. >> multiple firemen down. multiple firemen shot. i am shot. i think it was an assault rifle. >> volunteers from other areas have stepped in to help the webster fire department. >> we're all family, yep, brothers and sisters. it will be a long time before this department gets over this. i understand, if they need us to come back and help out we'll be here. >> police say william spengler set the fire to lure the firefighters into a trap. he eventually killed himself. his sister was also found dead. >>> how does a small community deal with so
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